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  Funeral/Memorial at the Kingdom Hall ... Would you go?

  by Wild_Thing in

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  let's say an aunt or uncle dies.

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  let's say you barely knew them.. let's say their memorial service was held at the kingdom hall.. let's say if you attend, you have to deal with shunning from family and jws, and you are forced listen to them present their paradise promotional materials, and the dead person's "earthly hope™", and let's face it ... the heeby-jeebies of having to be in a kingdom hall again.. would you put yourself through it?

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  stan livedeath

  my jw dad died in jan 2016. he was 94. he and i got baptised together ( i was 14) i left the cult in my 20's. he and i remained close..he never shunned me. his last 3 years he lived in a care home. i visited him every other day. i trimmed his hair and his nails. i shaved him.

  occasional elder visits to him dwindled and stopped. his former daughter in law ( my ex ); and my daughter--who lived in the same house...never went near him. they lived less than a mile away. i guess they shunned him because of his association with me.

  he was one of the good guys. he cared for my mum for years after she had a severe stroke. she died in 1998. everybody liked my dad. i miss him.

  after he died i arranged a simple non religious funeral. a few care home staff attended. i was supported by 2 ex jw friends that live near me and ive known for several years.

  unfortunately i forgot to notify the congregation, so no dubs attended. my bad.
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  Is attendance down in your location too?

  by StarryNight9 in

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  2. friends

  i was commenting on another thread about how local kh attendance is down.

  memorial attendance was also way down and the circuit assembly had hundreds less people than what is typical.

  my jw family has even mentioned it.

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  stan livedeath

  maybe the big brothers at warwick will lovingly make it all an internet religion. After all---bums on seats in kingdom halls dont really bring in much money. so--sell all the halls--send all the money to the society. then the faithfull few can log in to every cyber-meeting...no need to travel in the bad weather over great distances each week.

  assembLIES are a different matter. how exciting! maybe a couple of times a year--a big get together---each one attending paying ££$$ kerching to cover the costs. that is--if there are any followers left.
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  Montana jury awards two women $35M in sex abuse lawsuit against Jehovah's Witnesses

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://missoulian.com/news/local/montana-jury-awards-two-women-m-in-sex-abuse-lawsuit/article_1bcabb7c-7381-574b-a2ba-e011cc0250a6.html.

  montana jury awards two women $35m in sex abuse lawsuit against jehovah's witnesses .

  a jury in northwestern montana awarded two women $35 million wednesday in their lawsuit against the local jehovah’s witnesses congregation and its worldwide headquarters.. .

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  stan livedeath

  All the stalwart JWs still sitting there (who have two brain cells left to rub together) have to be absolutely nauseous from it all.

  
  

  nope...they know its all just apostate lies. just proves the end is even closer than before.
  
  
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  Review: Apostasy

  by neat blue dog in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  stan's recent post about the apostasy movie reminded me that i had watched it last month, so i thought i'd write a review.

  please note this will probably contain some spoilers so if you care about that sort of thing hold off on reading this.. first i want to say that this is probably one of the most if not the most accurate and reasonable cinematic portrayals of jws.

  however here is a list of little inaccuracies: an outdated view that preaching to all the world can 'make' the end come, jesus briefly portrayed with long hair, judicial reinstatement meetings being called "guidance meetings", a normal weekly public talk being introduced as "the first in a series of talks he's prepared for us", applause at the end of a local needs part, and a jw saying of god "you need to earn his love, it's conditional" ( i know this is basically true in practice but they'd rarely say it out loud).

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  stan livedeath

  The film has now been taken off you tube, and I guess my post with the link has been erased.
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  I'm considering putting off my leaving

  by paradiseseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just wanted to share with you the thoughts that i've had lately.. my plan was to get a job, become independent and then leaving the org throughout this year 2018. i'm going to achieve the first step in a matter of weeks, the second one soon afterwards but maybe i will wait a little longer for the last one.. one year ago a friend of mine was reinstated.

  we weren't very close friends back then, although we got along well.

  but, since no many jws in my town want to hang out with him (because of his being a former disfellowshipped), we started to talk and go out more often and in a matter of half a year we've become very close friends, like brothers.

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  stan livedeath

  hey Paradiseseeker ( fat chance ..lol)....youre just the kind of young dub we need in the kingdumb hall. you--and your mates. partying---boozing---what else do you get up to ? ( nothing i didnt get up to ! )

  priveleges ? pioneering ? servants ?....err--no.

  keep up the good work.
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  European HQ publishes figures of it's own demise!

  by Darth FayDehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  will you be joining the celebrations on saturday 22nd september, 2018?.

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  check the usual exjw channels for info....

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  Does Disfellowshipping only prohibit spiritual contact with a DF family member or friend?

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  all through my life, now in my 40's, i've seen df people get completely shunned by family and friends, but an ex elder showed me the stfog book that says it's just spiritual contact that stops.

  so what's the crack?

  i'm mega confused, as i want to go p.o.m.o or ideally da but don't want to loose family..

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  stan livedeath

  i'm in the UK

  i think the shunning depends to an extent on how the dub uses it. many are control freaks..and use shunning to cut off close family members as a form of control. my family does.

  on the other hand--my mom and dad never shunned me---my dad said to me he couldnt find any biblical instruction to have no contact with his son. but we avoided any discussion of watchtower crap.
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  What would you do or say?

  by Butyoucanneverleave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a brother who is not baptized ( so there's still hope for him ) had a sister recently run into him at a store.

  show wanted to know if he's going to the kingdom hall.

  she asked him to write a letter for her to give to his mother ( who's deceased) in the paradise explaining why he didn't make it.

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  stan livedeath

  i hope that sister had her head covered when she spoke to him like that
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  Id like to share a story

  by scruffmcbuff in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as i spend more time here, things id forgotten come back, mostly bad and some i plan to share eventually.. but this one is happy, one of a sunday talk by a new elder from nigeria in our hall.

  i remember the intro word for word.

  id like to share it with you.. "brothers, sisters, newly interested ones.

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  stan livedeath

  no shit ?
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  What Privileges do you get when you are baptized ?

  by LOLS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my husband was baptized at the recent 2018 convention in south africa ....... he was very annoyed that his non-believing wife did not attend the baptism....... but i think he received pressure from his jw father & elders as to why his wife was not attending ....... anyway ..... it's really water off my back .

  i wanted to know what privileges you get as a baptized jw man , as i saw a message from one of the elders at his cong , congratulating him on his baptism and to earning more privileges ..... what are these privileges the elder is speaking about ,,,,, .

  i don't feel like asking my husband as it just lands up in a stupid fight ..... or a long winded explanation ..... thanks .

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  stan livedeath

  i can never understand the marriage dynamic of husband being the dub and the wife not. usually the other way round. used to be called the opposed husband...although in most cases the husband wasnt opposed...just couldnt care less.

  so you "opposed" wives---just remember who rules the roost at home--despite what the watchtower may like to say. "sitting on a gold mine" comes to mind.